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incoherently rambling since 2003

Ok, so i’m going to try and get all of this out in one session as the feedback to my original post has been blunt at best.

Notes:

- When I say ‘marriage’, i’m indicating when you have found the person you will forsake over all others. This emotional attachment can come at any stage. And when you feel it, you all know what it’s like (well, those who are there will)

- I’ll probably continue to re-edit this, so come back often :)

Before you get together

None of each others damn business. Though i’m sure you’ll find out things as life progresses, the past is the past, get over it!

When you first get togeher

The sharing stage. When you little by little share who you are with the other, define boundaries and generally get to know each other.

This is also the stage between strangers and marriage.

Meanwhile, through these stages, the fundamental of any decent relationship builds. Trust. No trust, no relationship as far as I can see.

Marriage

Now after muchos time of the ‘When you first get together’ phase, we move into the ‘I’ve forsaken you over all others, marriage’ stage.

Now while one secrets from their past, and even stages of when they are getting together can remain one’s own, I feel that this should be the stage where you two can and will talk about everything.

This is not to say you have to talk about how you hate your partner on this day, or you’re just sick of it, or you want another life. Everybody has those feelings folks. We’re human and we always want what’s on the other side of the fence.

I’m talking about the stuff that you’re told. Your secrets and whispers. Basically if someone told me when i’m married ‘don’t tell anyone’, that extension (in my mind) goes through to my partner. Why? Because if you can’t trust them, then that shows a lack of trust.

See, there’s two sides to this. You either trust your partner enough to tell them everything, or you don’t. Now like that or otherwise it *is* the truth. One can’t say they trust another person 100% but then not be able to tell them things.

Remembering that (in context) if you hear a deep, dark secret. (like, ‘I just killed my husband’), I would notice the change (subtle, no doubt) in my partner. If she didn’t share what’s going on, I would (after time) start to get suspicious.
‘What’s she holding back’, ‘Why doesn’t she tell me what’s going on in her life’ … etc etc….

The sanctity of a marriage can’t be disputed, as I quoted earlier, even by God himself. If you told one of my parents a secret, no matter how dark, the other would know. Does that mean a lack of trust, no. It means a respect of trust built over 25 years, through things that most of us singles wouldn’t even want to contemplate.

And until you, me or the casual reader on the web has reached that stage, I don’t think we can really start passing judgement.

There’s more, click below..

I’m feeling self-righteous because i’m scared folks. I’m tired and emotional and trying to find my feet. It doesn’t happen all that often, but these last few days have taken the rug under my feet, made me feel uncomfortable.

First and foremost, this is my blog, my ramblings, my life. If anyone wants to dispute what i’m saying, i’ll give you an account and away you go.

In fact I encourage you to do so.

I’m *not* trying to be an asshole, I am trying to articulate what’s going on in my head. I am trying to vent, I am trying to share what’s happening in my world.

I’m trying to get my blog back to something more than movie reviews and ‘what I did last nights’ … I used to write what I felt, how I interacted with the world. Lately, I don’t seem to have the strength.

Thanks for listening
Adam

3 Comments

  1. Now I havent finished reading this post yet, but at first glance here’s what I think

    your progression reads Strangers -> Less Strangers Than Beofre -> Marriage

    I don’t mean to sound harsh, but I think there is a bit in the middle your missing…. If there is one think I know about you my friend, its that you want it (what ever it may be) and you want it yesterday.

    Patience is a virtue, or so I’m told…

    Also, one other comment I’d like to pass :)
    We are the sum total of our experiences.
    All our experiences occur in the past, obviously, else we would not have experienced them yet, which means they wouldn’t be experiences, they’d be periences, well actually thats not true either, they’d be potential periences… you’d buy them a drink, some flowers, take them to dinner and a movie eventually making them periences, till you do something silly like pash their sister at the family christmas do, making them an EXperience….

    anyway back on topic… the past a very important part of the future, and any relationship in the future, it really can’t be ignored or swept under the carpet, unless you work for the CIA.

    So far in my short life i’ve noticed that us humans have trouble “getting over” anything. Accepting and moving forward is always a better plan. Accepting doesn’t imply that you like it…

    *END RANT*

  2. Hey there,

    Your analysis of my articulation (limited) is (as always) very accurate. Maybe I need to write a third post to clarify what I really meant in my first two posts…. i’m sure the extended version will get there soon enough :)…..

    Well pointed regarding the ‘middle bits’ - they are the most enjoyable and the reason we do this thing. My post wasn’t as much about the middle bits, but more importantly about the marriage bit. And within that segment, more about the trust that two people take on when they are in said segment of their lives.

    Rushing things (though very true about me) wasn’t the core of my thread on this particular post, however I can honestly address that point and say that i’m not actually rushing this relationship (everything else, definitely, but the girl… thankfully not this time around)…..

    [hard to believe, I know, but actually true]

    I have a hard time letting go.. an almost impossible one. That’s why, though it’s important to know that Jen has a past, I don’t need to know exact details about it.

    If Jen did drugs, slept with 200 people and had 3 kids, those are things i’ll find out in due course. Do I absolutely need to know about them to have a meaningful relationship with her. No I don’t.
    For us, what’s important is how we face today and tomorrow together. How we see the world and what drives us. How we came to those conclusions isn’t necessarily something that I need to know…. ‘

    I do agree with you on the acceptance, just with a slight twist. I know what stuff I don’t want to hear about …. (I don’t want to know about her list of ex’s for example), so I accept that she had them and move on. I don’t discuss my ex’s outside of (i’ve been there with x, y or z) and I take the time and energy on ‘this’ relationship, not living my past ones.

    p.s, and more importantly - will you be at the party on Saturday night.. I want to meet this girl we hear so much about! :)
    Adam

  3. Well said :)

    I’ll have to call you about Saturday Night..
    Night I cant do, but maybe we can do lunch on Saturday or Sunday or something…

    I know I suck but its beyond my control…